Thanks for the sermon, Brother Steel.
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Do You Fear Death?
by Cold Steel inwhether you're a former jw, or active jw, or some other religion, or atheist, what do you say?
do you fear death and, whether yes, no, or i don't know, why?
have changed religious views changed your view of death?
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Perfume / Cologne
by LouBelle inthere are some perfumes that i absolutely just love and a little squirt of it can bring back such good memories, make you feel sexy.
my favorite is dolce & gabbana (red), followed by d&g "the one", followed by coco chanel .
on men, i love the smell of the original hugo boss - used to make my tummy clench in a good way .
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Coco Mademoiselle (Chanel)
Angel (Thierry Mugler)
Nude (Bill Blass)
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The watchtower is making some dangerous enemies
by 20yearfader inthis weekend i spent time with a friend that i haven't seen since high school,that would be 22 years.he grew up the same way i did being a born in.he and i both received our share of beatings related to the wt org coming to the hall without a song book not getting a comment low hours in field service etc....where we differ is the fact that his stepdad was beating him with his fist i got the belt or a stick.he would come to school with black eyes due to his infractions with the hall.after we left schoo we lost touch since he was still living at home an going to the meetings and i wasn't, kicked out at 17 so that ending my time with the org.he stayed at home until 21 still getting his fair share of beatings due to any sort of failing that had to do with the org.he left after one beating and joined the marines,he was dfed.while in the marines he told me he asked an got sniper training becoming a deadly shot,he also told me he always volunteered for the most dangerous missions.i can see that he was doing this to escape the pain of his upbringing even to his subconscious mind secrectly hoping to die on one of these missions.he tells me he has some sort of nerve disability that will progress until he cant walk,he has hearing loss due to a grenade going off by his head'he knows one day he will be in a wheelchair disabled it's only a matter of time.he hasn't spoke to his mother and his family in over 20 years they care nothing about him not even returning the calls he leaves on there answering machine,he told me he calls once a month for the past 20 years.sitting here at my house he says out of the clear blue you know i've thought a lot about going to brooklyn and with the skills i have i could do a lot of damage to those men that have ruined my life.i talked him out of it i think,i told him about this site where he could come to vent,because i think he needs to vent badly.i don't know what will happen to him when he is told his quality of life will get worse and if he will revisit the idea of lashing out at what he thinks has ruin his life,i don't know what he will do and even though i think i talked him out of doing anything,can i really say i blame him.i'm in the same boat my family is fractured broken all because of some men,men in brooklyn that hold more control over my family than i can,i wonder do thay ever think about the countless people that they affect with there shunning methods how many broken families they leave in there wake.i will say one thing there are many others out there that think the way my friend does i feel it's only a matter of time before karma comes a knocking..
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mrsjones: " Linebackers can't stop bullets. "
Rest in peace, Pat Tillman.
Farkel's classic "Beat that Child":
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/15771/1/BEAT-that-Child
If anyone in Brooklyn is paying attention to this site, read this thread and think long and hard about it. Think about things like security checks and bodyguards. This is a sincere warning. You bastards have ruined a lot of lives. All it takes is one victim who's been pushed too far to do an awful lot of damage.
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A terrible lie?
by molybdenum ini wrote this poem a while back but with recent developments ( noo light .
when i was a kid, it was all very clear.
armageddon is soon, the end so near.
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molybdenum: " Just take the message from door to door
It doesn't matter if you're really poor
Just take the message, it's what matters
Don't worry if your life is in tatters. "
This stanza is what being a dub is all about. The WTS doesn't give a flying leap if your life is circling down the drain because of their outrageous (but Christian!) demands on your life.
Sad but true poem, molyb.
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A terrible lie?
by molybdenum ini wrote this poem a while back but with recent developments ( noo light .
when i was a kid, it was all very clear.
armageddon is soon, the end so near.
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Cold Steel: "... keep you spiritual eyes and ears open and don't give in to discontent and atheism."
Why do you consider atheism as something one "gives in to"? Do you think that all atheists become atheists because they're discontent with religion? Can you think of any other reasons one might become an atheist?
Cold Steel: "I'd rather someone remain a believing JW than to reject religion."
Nearly every exdub on this site has told a horror story of their experience with the WTS and JWs. They have been, and some are still being, brutalized by its heartless doctrines, unloving fellow dubs, needless guilt, and shunning by their own families. Recommending that someone stay a dub just so they can be "religious" is like telling a battered woman to stay with her husband because marriage is great institution.
Cold Steel: "True believers may be hard-headed and difficult, but they're probably happier than those who no long have a cause to champion."
On what do you base your opinion that believers are happier than atheists? What makes you think atheists have no "cause to champion"?
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Do You Fear Death?
by Cold Steel inwhether you're a former jw, or active jw, or some other religion, or atheist, what do you say?
do you fear death and, whether yes, no, or i don't know, why?
have changed religious views changed your view of death?
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Cold Steel: " Whether you're a former JW, or active JW, or some other religion, or atheist, what do you say? Do you fear death and, whether yes, no, or I don't know, why? Have changed religious views changed your view of death?
I don't fear being dead. Why? 'Cause I don't. The dying part -- not so thrilled about that.
Cold Steel: Also, for those who have left, do you still believe the soul sleeping doctrine taught by many Adventist sects? "
Don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound like anything I'd put any stock in.
Cold Steel: " Jehovah's Witnesses so casually refer to eternity in Paradise that it makes me wonder if they really can conceptualize what eternity really is. "
I posted a thread about that very topic about two months ago --
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/246250/1/Living-Forever-on-a-Paradise-Earth
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Estephan, if the end isn't until 2016, that gives the rest of us heathens 3 more years to party!
Start taking your medication again, and you can party along with us!
FYI, newbies, Estephan is our resident scripture-spouting nutter, but he has a good heart. Go easy on him.
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Good Info for people that might get cancer
by Iamallcool inhttp://tv.greenmedinfo.com/every-doctor-knows-chemotherapy-causes-cancer-says-surgeon/.
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At its most basic, cancer is a disease of the genes. Researchers don't know yet all the influences that can result in a gene going haywire and causing uncontrolled cell reproduction, which is the hallmark of cancer.
And NO ONE knows a way that will get those genes to behave themselves. Chemo, surgery, radiation, bone marrow transplant, and some retrovirus therapies are the only tools that work to get a cancer to go into remission. These therapies are dangerous and may cause more trouble down the road. But when the alternative is death, they are still the best choice for a cancer patient.
Very occasionally, a cancer will go into remission with minimal treatment. This is rare.
Promoting vegan diets and other like-minded actions as a "cure" for cancer is irresponsible. Read "The Emporer of All Maladies" to inform youself about what cancer is and what cancer research has accomplished in the last sixty years.
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Ripping a persons faith away, a heavy responsibility?
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mrsjones: " Like what happened to me a few pages ago? That was an ad hominem attack and if anyone noticed I did not respond in kind. "
You, mrsjones, are a great example of how people should behave on this site. Insightful, helpful, and often hilarious comments without feeling the need to antagonize others needlessly.
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Ripping a persons faith away, a heavy responsibility?
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LisaRose: If the answer is no, you want to heap ridicule on them because they still have some kind of faith in God, then by all means heap on the ridicule.
I agreed in an earlier post that common courtesy should be practised more on this site.
You are talking about right wing Christians, but aren't some of the Athiests a bit heavy handed as well?
Yes, some atheists are heavy-handed too. I have myself posted some less-than-polite opinions. I agree with Seraphim's suggestion that the person at the computer at the other end deserves at least as much courtesy as we would give strangers meeting face-to-face.
This thread is a reminder for everyone who gets carried away in a discussion and resorts to ad hominem attacks.